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Sorcer Pets Need to Be Disabled In Towns & Cities Next Patch

Dino-Jr
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After the patch every town is filled wall to wall with sorc pets wings. It is legitimately making the game annoying to play. This is not a small complaint or minor inconvenience, its a big deal to the feel and aesthetic of the game. Some of the coolest spaces in the game just look and feel like crap because of 1 character classes summons. It makes ESO look cheap, and it makes spaces that should be fun or comfortable to hang out in between quests legitimately irritating.

Please ZOS put something in the next patch that turns the Bird Person Sorc Pets off in Towns/Cities or makes it a crime to have them summoned.

Pictures without the animation don't fully convey the severity of the problem.
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Edited by Dino-Jr on June 8, 2025 12:37PM
  • SpiritKitten
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    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.
  • Dino-Jr
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    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

    I guess ill just stop going to towns or cities that are popular then. This is a much more significant problem than the perma glow nightblade ability they fixed.
    Edited by Dino-Jr on June 7, 2025 4:01PM
  • StormWylf
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    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

    Just to confirm, Spirit is absolutely correct.
  • DenverRalphy
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    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

    Yep been over 10 years now. Except now it's exacerbated by subclassing. It used to be only 1 class had the flappies running around town. Now every class can add to the debacle.
  • Dino-Jr
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    StormWylf wrote: »
    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

    Just to confirm, Spirit is absolutely correct.

    :'(
  • zaria
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    We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

    Yep been over 10 years now. Except now it's exacerbated by subclassing. It used to be only 1 class had the flappies running around town. Now every class can add to the debacle.
    And hold my bear for the warden animal companion, sorcerer pets, perhaps nightblade shadows.
    so 7 with companion,
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • maboleth
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    Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.
  • Dino-Jr
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    maboleth wrote: »
    Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

    outside of towns and cities totally cool to have a giant flappy human bird take up half of your screen. its honestly just the bird person that needs to be dealt with. most of the other pets aren't a big deal.

    in towns and cities.......id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

    zos already has the tech from necros to make the bird person ability a crime in towns. that would deal with it pretty well.
    Edited by Dino-Jr on June 7, 2025 7:17PM
  • gamergirldk
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    all pets just need to auto disable in the big trade hubs.
  • Dino-Jr
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    all pets just need to auto disable in the big trade hubs.

    its definitely not just an audio problem. its that when i go anywhere in any town to interact with anything there is a 50% chance some bird person takes up half the screen or dominates the view of the city.

    zos put so much effort into making cool towns that are fun to hang out in.

    one pet from one class ruins that consistently. this isnt hyperbole either. it makes the game look cheaper and lower quality than it is. one over sized low poly 3d model with absurdly distracting animation monopolizes an entire setting and vibe created by there devs. (*also zos if your reading dont interpret this as asking for an improved 3d model lol, the request is to just not allow this thing to appear at all in hub areas in the first place just like necro pets)
    Edited by Dino-Jr on June 7, 2025 7:27PM
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    Dino-Jr wrote: »
    zos already has the tech from necros to make the bird person ability a crime in towns. that would deal with it pretty well.

    I'm wondering if they could use the Companion tech that auto de-summons an active Companion if you summon an Assistant, and then automatically re-spawns the Companion when you de-summon the Assistant.

    Make it so that, if you have Sorc pets active, they get auto de-summoned if you step within the bounds of a town, and then auto re-summoned when you leave that town.
    Sorcs do not need their pets in town, so this wouldn't be inconveniencing them at all, since everything would happen automatically.

    Edited by Grizzbeorn on June 7, 2025 7:38PM
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    • Dino-Jr
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      Grizzbeorn wrote: »
      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      maboleth wrote: »
      Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

      outside of towns and cities totally cool to have a giant flappy human bird take up half of your screen. its honestly just the bird person that needs to be dealt with. most of the other pets aren't a big deal.

      in towns and cities.......id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

      zos already has the tech from necros to make the bird person ability a crime in towns. that would deal with it pretty well.

      I'm wondering if they could use the Companion tech that auto de-summons an active Companion if you summon an Assistant, and then automatically re-spawns the Companion when you de-summon the Assistant.

      Make it so that, if you have Sorc pets active, they get auto de-summoned if you step within the bounds of a town, and then auto re-summoned when you leave that town.
      Sorcs do not need their pets in town, so this wouldn't be inconveniencing them at all, since everything would happen automatically.

      that sounds perfect. the necro thing is sorta messy because it literally costs players in game money accidently. i like your idea.
      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 7, 2025 7:38PM
    • BretonMage
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      maboleth wrote: »
      Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

      Exactly. But I wouldn't mind if they made it so that we can toggle other players' pet visibility in towns. Much like what they did for crafting stations but applied to a much wider area.

      That way those who like the feeling of a busy town can enjoy bears and flappies, and others can toggle it off if they don't like it.
    • Dino-Jr
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      BretonMage wrote: »
      maboleth wrote: »
      Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

      Exactly. But I wouldn't mind if they made it so that we can toggle other players' pet visibility in towns. Much like what they did for crafting stations but applied to a much wider area.

      That way those who like the feeling of a busy town can enjoy bears and flappies, and others can toggle it off if they don't like it.

      sure if thats an option that absolutely works and would be awesome/ideal.

      that said if the options are force people not to be able to have a spawned bird person in town or do nothing about it.....

      and lets be super clear this is not about enjoying a busy town or not enjoying a busy town. i love seeing everyones characters and gear. thats fun. bird people are so distracting I cant really enjoy see other peoples player characters when they are there. it is very very specifically about bird people.

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      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 7, 2025 7:52PM
    • kevkj
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      They should disable the entire skill line.
    • FeedbackOnly
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      This is discrimination
    • FeedbackOnly
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      We have been begging for this for years. Their solution was to sell a semi-transparent one in the store. So I wouldn't get your hopes up that they will ever fix this.

      Yep been over 10 years now. Except now it's exacerbated by subclassing. It used to be only 1 class had the flappies running around town. Now every class can add to the debacle.

      Hey now there's the bear too!
    • Monte_Cristo
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      Could they just make pets invisible to other players in towns like companions are?
    • TheImperfect
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      I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants this. It is seriously an issue for me, they drive me crazy. It's literally like aversion therapy to the game. They annoy near quest givers and in towns and wayshrines and craft hubs. I really want NOT to see them anymore.
    • SilverBride
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      Could they just make pets invisible to other players in towns like companions are?

      That sounds like the perfect solution. And it seems like it can be done since it works with Companions.
      PCNA
    • Northwold
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      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      maboleth wrote: »
      Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

      outside of towns and cities totally cool to have a giant flappy human bird take up half of your screen. its honestly just the bird person that needs to be dealt with. most of the other pets aren't a big deal.

      in towns and cities.......id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

      zos already has the tech from necros to make the bird person ability a crime in towns. that would deal with it pretty well.

      I actually disagree here. The bear can be really problematic as well eg when you're trying to steal things, because people just sit there with it and happily go through their inventory (or whatever it is people do while they leave their mess lying around, their nails perhaps?) while its posterior literally covers the furniture you're trying to steal from!
      Edited by Northwold on June 8, 2025 1:30AM
    • Artim_X
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      ZOS should just make them invisible in towns unless someone is in a duel/combat.
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    • Dino-Jr
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      For to long bird people have ruined our towns & cities.
      Northwold wrote: »
      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      maboleth wrote: »
      Don't you dare touch my zoo residents.

      outside of towns and cities totally cool to have a giant flappy human bird take up half of your screen. its honestly just the bird person that needs to be dealt with. most of the other pets aren't a big deal.

      in towns and cities.......id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

      zos already has the tech from necros to make the bird person ability a crime in towns. that would deal with it pretty well.

      I actually disagree here. The bear can be really problematic as well eg when you're trying to steal things, because people just sit there with it and happily go through their inventory (or whatever it is people do while they leave their mess lying around, their nails perhaps?) while its posterior literally covers the furniture you're trying to steal from!

      Yea any of the pets can be disruptive that way. I agree. Perfect world I could flip a switch and hide them all in towns.

      That doesn't change the fact that Oversized Offensively Animated Bird Person is the biggest issue by far and should be addressed first.
      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 8, 2025 2:23AM
    • Dino-Jr
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      I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants this. It is seriously an issue for me, they drive me crazy. It's literally like aversion therapy to the game. They annoy near quest givers and in towns and wayshrines and craft hubs. I really want NOT to see them anymore.

      Its not an unusual thing for you to be thinking.

      It is a video game. The last thing it should ever be is annoying to look at.
    • Fiennes
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      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

      I mean, I get your point and all those pets can be annoying but this part made me laugh out loud. Pretty sure there's nothing in the TOS of any game that guarantees you a certain amount of viewing pleasure tailored to yourself.
    • Sarannah
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      Pets in town should not bother you, if you directly aim at something it will aim through the pets. This works for crafting stations and daily quest turn-ins.
    • Dino-Jr
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      Sarannah wrote: »
      Pets in town should not bother you, if you directly aim at something it will aim through the pets. This works for crafting stations and daily quest turn-ins.

      I can still access the menus for crafting and quests. Regardless It does bother me and for legitimate reasons and you are wrong to tell me it should not. If you think all I am talking about is physically accessing crafting stations you missed the point.

      Giant flappy winged bird people destroy the tone, and vibe of every town and city they are in. Its very common to see 2-3+ in populated areas, and even 1 is often enough to draw all visual attention away from the rest of the setting.

      This is a real problem that ZOS needs to solve.
      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 8, 2025 10:47AM
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      Fiennes wrote: »
      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      id prefer to be able to see my screen and what I paid for

      I mean, I get your point and all those pets can be annoying but this part made me laugh out loud. Pretty sure there's nothing in the TOS of any game that guarantees you a certain amount of viewing pleasure tailored to yourself.

      My point there was more that I happily pay ZOS to see the worlds/areas they have created and to hang out in them. So much of it they built with care besides this and I would like to be able to see it without giant flappy winged bird people as the most visible animated object/character.

      Just highlighting a pretty major detail the ZOS environment and town/cities team has missed.
      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 8, 2025 10:42AM
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      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      Giant flappy winged bird people destroy the tone, and vibe of every town and city they are in. Its very common to see 2-3+ in populated areas, and even 1 is often enough to draw all visual attention away from the rest of the setting.

      Daedric summons are a lore-essential part of TES games, and are a part of the tone of Tamriel. If you are being bothered by a few daedric summons, then I'd say it's less a ZOS problem and more a subjective taste problem.

      Having said that, I would support an invisibility setting on the individual's side to not see them in towns, as I said before. Optional settings are the magic get-along shirt we all need and love.
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      BretonMage wrote: »
      Dino-Jr wrote: »
      Giant flappy winged bird people destroy the tone, and vibe of every town and city they are in. Its very common to see 2-3+ in populated areas, and even 1 is often enough to draw all visual attention away from the rest of the setting.

      Daedric summons are a lore-essential part of TES games, and are a part of the tone of Tamriel. If you are being bothered by a few daedric summons, then I'd say it's less a ZOS problem and more a subjective taste problem.

      Having said that, I would support an invisibility setting on the individual's side to not see them in towns, as I said before. Optional settings are the magic get-along shirt we all need and love.

      I like the lore around TES a ton and I like daedric stuff a huge amount. Right now when its there 1 specific bird person summon is the dominant visual in all towns/cities, its having the exact opposite effect of establishing the tone. The little monky summons is fine as an example because its infrequently animated and not gigantic.

      I am specifically saying that the 3d model itself, how it is animated, and how common it is in towns/cities is a problem. Its not a subjective taste problem and its dismissive to say that. If ZOS could find a smaller asset thats less visually dominating of the settings its in that would probably work but I doubt thats the most immediate or best solve here.

      Its a legitimate problem for how towns/cities look and feel because its so absurdly animated, large, and commonly equipped.

      An optional setting is best of all worlds total agreement there but I dont think resolving this should have to wait for something that complex to be implemented. Anyway I have said my piece going to backway away from this thread permanently now.

      Hopefully some one from ZOS cares about it enough to improve it.
      Edited by Dino-Jr on June 8, 2025 11:27AM
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