Ragnarok0130 wrote: »

I'm frankly surprised that ZoS hasn't canned these forums since it's obvious they don't use it as a source for player and PTS feedback. FO76 got rid of their forums a couple of years ago and moved it to their unusable discord.

I expected the ESO forums to also go to the unusable discord format.

That said, I am glad they have not. If you want to discourage community discourse and participation in a game, discord is the optimal route to take!

Can anyone recommend a good UI addon?

tomofhyrule wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I would be interested to see what the Group UI looks like now, because that was definitely unfinished before.

Nope, still looks unfinished.


This... isn't the final version of the Group UI, right?

Also I can't help but notice that the vignette is still there, and it's still the same "ye olde blotchy parchment" look as the Live UI. So there's another point for "something that doesn't match anymore."

I just can’t stand a solid black box on the screen like that! Is there a way in the game to at least make it more transparent like some of the other boxes?

tomofhyrule wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

I would be interested to see what the Group UI looks like now, because that was definitely unfinished before.

Nope, still looks unfinished.


This... isn't the final version of the Group UI, right?

Also I can't help but notice that the vignette is still there, and it's still the same "ye olde blotchy parchment" look as the Live UI. So there's another point for "something that doesn't match anymore."

@ZOS_Kevin when are we getting an update about the UI in PTS being shared here?

A UI needs to provide consistent clues to the user about what an item within it does. It appeared at first that they intended to make all the dialogs, where the user could make inputs, distinct from displays, where there was only an output. Hard edges on dialogs, soft on displays would have worked well.

Instead we have areas with half hard edges, and half soft, that are dialogs, like the log-in one, and the display for the companion or group member got hard edges.

A change to health bars was inevitable, as the number of things it was being asked to convey was increasing, and the overlays on the rounded effect were getting lost. However, a flat shade reduces its 'visual importance' and the player's eye goes elsewhere. Perhaps adding the extras outside the box would have allowed the content to keep working.

In general, the UI does still let you know what you can and can't click on, and gives appropriate feedback to confirm your actions. Some modernizing attempts have lost that in other software. The worst offenders have buttons without edges, that you can't tell if you pressed them. At least that hasn't happened here (yet?)

Maxxermax wrote: »

Well, developers, what style do you want now?
The attribute bars are all mixed up in style.
(This screenshots were taken from the PTS server)

Looks like huge chaos. When is this supposed to go live? In roughly 2 weeks?

Syldras wrote: »

Maxxermax wrote: »

Well, developers, what style do you want now?
The attribute bars are all mixed up in style.
(This screenshots were taken from the PTS server)

Looks like huge chaos. When is this supposed to go live? In roughly 2 weeks?

June 2.

I'm disappointed that ZOS still hasn't seen fit to give us a hint as to why this was a necessary change beyond "we're making the UI modern." Everything we've seen so far in this thread is also highlighting that is was 1) lazily and 2) inconsistently done, and the feedback has been nearly unanimously negative.

But obviously it's that we, the PTS testers, are wrong. And when this releases in two weeks, we'll see that the general populace will adore the new modern look for this medieval-ish fantasy game. I'm sure that's precisely how this will go.

Syldras wrote: »

Maxxermax wrote: »

Well, developers, what style do you want now?
The attribute bars are all mixed up in style.
(This screenshots were taken from the PTS server)

Looks like huge chaos. When is this supposed to go live? In roughly 2 weeks?

I hope it never goes live. I was checking it out yesterday and the best word to describe it cannot be used in polite company.

The current console UI and the PC UI both look better, more refined, and more professional, than what they are showing on PTS.

I have nothing nice at all to say about it.

Have you guys seen the newest "live-action"-trailer?
The flat design is in the endscreen. I think we can't stop it.

I hope a mod changing the design back will be developed soon and someone will post the link in this thread then. Thanks in advance!

if i have UI addon, can i keep main now?
i really dont like new boss health UI

Maxxermax wrote: »

Syldras wrote: »

I hope a mod changing the design back will be developed soon and someone will post the link in this thread then. Thanks in advance!

If the old assets are not in the game files anymore that will be a hard job and also a large addon.

Assets from the LIVE version are still available until U46 launches. I personally have those backed up, but I don't have any experience in coding to whip something up.

mrreow wrote: »

I actually like the new UI. It’s more readable and neat. The old one is messy and not really pretty either. If we want to have functional and not fancy UI then the new one is more functional. It just works

Just look at the new skills UI, you see everything at first glance clearly and precisely. Big upgrade

Health bars are also infinitely more readable. Previous ones almost look amateur now

You have a right to your opinion... but I genuinely want to know how in the world you can think that more detail, more theming, more 'immersion,' more care, more just... love for what they're making somehow is 'amateur?' You can like the new flat, 'clean' (boring, I'd say), sharp-edged design, but come on. Let's not pretend like the old one doesn't have a whole lot more heart and soul in it. Anyone can make the new UI with a couple hours playing around with the shape tools in Photoshop. The old one has actual designs, textures, gradients, depth.

You don't have to like the old one more, but can we at least not pretend that flat, soulless, basic designs are somehow less amateurish than custom textured designs? The old UI design made me think that whoever was making it actually cared about what they were creating, that it was actually one part of a larger experience. The new one? It looks like an intern halfway through a graphic design program was told to create 'a health bar for a videogame - any videogame' and did just that. Put it into almost any other game and it'd fit just as well. How is that not more amateurish, regardless of personal taste?

DerAlleinTiger wrote: »

You have a right to your opinion... but I genuinely want to know how in the world you can think that more detail, more theming, more 'immersion,' more care, more just... love for what they're making somehow is 'amateur?' You can like the new flat, 'clean' (boring, I'd say), sharp-edged design, but come on. Let's not pretend like the old one doesn't have a whole lot more heart and soul in it. Anyone can make the new UI with a couple hours playing around with the shape tools in Photoshop. The old one has actual designs, textures, gradients, depth.

You don't have to like the old one more, but can we at least not pretend that flat, soulless, basic designs are somehow less amateurish than custom textured designs? The old UI design made me think that whoever was making it actually cared about what they were creating, that it was actually one part of a larger experience. The new one? It looks like an intern halfway through a graphic design program was told to create 'a health bar for a videogame - any videogame' and did just that. Put it into almost any other game and it'd fit just as well. How is that not more amateurish, regardless of personal taste?

Anyone can do these “artistic” ink blobs that were in previous UI and added nothing of note. It was never really looking good. It was a bit more artsy but it was a bad art. Function is better than bad art if you can’t have both.

mrreow wrote: »

Anyone can do these “artistic” ink blobs that were in previous UI and added nothing of note. It was never really looking good. It was a bit more artsy but it was a bad art. Function is better than bad art if you can’t have both.

If you prefer a flat and "cleaner" design you can use the addon Bandits User Interface right now.

I think I will use that addon instead of the new "modernized" design.

Unfortunately, the menu windows also have a harsher look due to the hard borders, as opposed to the current smooth transitions of the window borders.
Unfortunately, there is no add-on for this (yet).